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imprimante canon pixma mp560

gepe24

Bonjour, je suis nouveau sur fedora 16, je viens du côté debian....
je trouve fedora 16 super, je n'ai qu'un problème avec mon imprimante canon pixma mp 560.
j'ai trouvé les drivers au format rpm sur le site du constructeur mais pas moyen de la faire fonctionner, je ne la vois même pas !
Quelqu'un pourrait il m'aider pas à pas ?
Merci d'avance.

MarbolanGos

32 ou 64 bits ?
Quels RPM ? Que donne rpm -q le_nom_du_rpm ?

gepe24

je suis sous fedora 64b les drivers sont en 32, et la commande donne
"[gepe@pcfedora packages]$ rpm -q cnijfilter-common-3.20-1.i386.rpm
le paquetage cnijfilter-common-3.20-1.i386.rpm n'est pas installé"

Mais si je relance l'install en suivant la recommendation du driver j'ai ça :
[gepe@pcfedora imp]$ ./install.sh
==================================================

Canon Inkjet Printer Driver Ver.3.20-1 for Linux
Copyright CANON INC. 2001-2009
All Rights Reserved.

==================================================
Mot de passe :
Execution command = rpm --test -U ./packages/cnijfilter-common-3.20-1.i386.rpm
paquetage cnijfilter-common-3.20-1.i386 déjà installé
Execution command = rpm --test -U ./packages/cnijfilter-mp560series-3.20-1.i386.rpm
paquetage cnijfilter-mp560series-3.20-1.i386 déjà installé

## Driver packages installed. ##
The printer registration has not been completed.
Register the printer manually by using the lpadmin command.

gepe24

A moitié résolu, j'ai copié le ppd de ma partition debain et l'impression fonctionne. Le scan non 🙁

paradise

gepe24 wrote:A moitié résolu, j'ai copié le ppd de ma partition debain et l'impression fonctionne. Le scan non 🙁

Sans faire du pessimisme, pour le scanner ce sera plus difficile...

xsane reconnaît bien les scanners HP, y compris les appareils multifonctions, pour les autres, c'est la loterie...

MarbolanGos

Si le scanner marchait sous Debian ça devrait tourner sous Fedora. Après le problème c'est le rpm 32 bits...
Il semblerait qu'il soit bien installé :

rpm -q cnijfilter-mp560series-3.20-1.i386 --filesbypkg

paradise

MarbolanGos wrote:Si le scanner marchait sous Debian ça devrait tourner sous Fedora. Après le problème c'est le rpm 32 bits...

Exact, au temps pour moi.

gepe24

quand je veux scanner, le seul outil de capture est ma webcam, pas moyen de sélectionner autre chose

gepe24

Personne n'a d'idées ? :-?🙂

paradise

Essaie de fouiner dans Google en mettant le nom de ton appareil et en l'associant à Linux, ou à une distro, pour voir si ton problème apparaît ailleurs, ça peut te donner des pistes (sans calquer forcément une solution de Ubuntu sur Fedora non plus, on se comprend).

Tu confirmes que le scan fonctionnait sous Debian ?

gepe24

oui sur debian et ubuntu il fonctionnait, ok je vais chercher 😉

MarbolanGos

J'ai toujours pas eu le retour de ma commande...

gepe24

Désolé mais quelle était ellle ? :-P

MarbolanGos

Message #6

gepe24

cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/lib/bjlib/cifmp560.conf
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/lib/bjlib/cnb_3600.tbl
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/lib/bjlib/cnbpname360.tbl
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/lib/libcnbpcmcm360.so.8.0.1
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/lib/libcnbpcnclapi360.so.3.4.0
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/lib/libcnbpcnclbjcmd360.so.3.3.0
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/lib/libcnbpcnclui360.so.3.4.2
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/lib/libcnbpess360.so.3.3.3
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/lib/libcnbpo360.so.1.0.2
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/bin/cifmp560
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/bin/cngpijmonmp560
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/bin/lgmonmp560
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/bin/printuimp560
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icon_15_Low.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icon_15_Unknown.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icon_16_Low.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icon_16_Unknown.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icon_Low.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icon_Out.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icon_Refill.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icond2_Low.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icond2_Out.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icond_Low.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icond_Out.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Icond_Refill.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Iconw_Low.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Iconw_Out.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Iconw_Refill.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink26b.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink26bb.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink26c.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink26cy.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink26ma.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink26pc.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink26pm.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink26sb.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink26ye.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_15.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_15_Level40.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_15_Low.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_15_Notdisplay.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_15_Under.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_15_Unknown.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_15_Unset.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_16.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_16_Level40.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_16_Low.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_16_Notdisplay.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_16_Under.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_16_Unknown.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_16_Unset.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_24b.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_24b1.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_24b2.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_24b3.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_24bf.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_24c.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_24c1.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_24c2.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_24c3.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_24cf.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_Level_00.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_Level_10.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_Level_40.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_Level_70.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_Level_uk.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_bb.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_bk.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_cy.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_el.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_er.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_gr.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_low.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_low010.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_low040.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_low070.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_low_bb.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_ma.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_out.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_out_bb.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_pb.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_pc.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_pm.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_re.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_sp.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Ink_ye.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkd2_Level_00.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkd2_Level_10.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkd2_Level_40.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkd2_Level_70.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkd2_Level_uk.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkd_Level_00.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkd_Level_10.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkd_Level_40.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkd_Level_70.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkd_Level_uk.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg26b.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg26bb.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg26c.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg26cy.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg26ma.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg26pc.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg26pm.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg26sb.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg26ye.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg27c.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_bb.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_bk.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_cy.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_el.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_er.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_gr.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_ma.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_pb.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_pc.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_pm.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_re.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_sp.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkg_ye.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkw_Level_00.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkw_Level_10.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkw_Level_40.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkw_Level_70.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/cngpijmonmp560/pixmaps/Inkw_Level_uk.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/id/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/id/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/th/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/th/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/zh/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/zh/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/cngpijmonmp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/printuimp560.mo
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/black_bar.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/contrast_high.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/contrast_low.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/cyan_bar.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/cyan_high2.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/cyan_low2.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/density_dark.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/density_light.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/locale-table
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/magenta_bar.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/magenta_high2.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/magenta_low2.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/ngptn_mp560.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/okptn_mp560.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/printui.glade
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/printui.res
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/yellow_bar.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/yellow_high2.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/local/share/printuimp560/yellow_low2.xpm
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/share/cups/model/canonmp560.ppd
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/share/doc/cnijfilter-mp560series-3.20
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/share/doc/cnijfilter-mp560series-3.20/LICENSE-cnijfilter-3.20EN.txt
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/share/doc/cnijfilter-mp560series-3.20/LICENSE-cnijfilter-3.20FR.txt
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/share/doc/cnijfilter-mp560series-3.20/LICENSE-cnijfilter-3.20JP.txt
cnijfilter-mp560series /usr/share/doc/cnijfilter-mp560series-3.20/LICENSE-cnijfilter-3.20SC.txt

MarbolanGos

Il serait intéressant de voir à quoi sert ces exécutables là :

cnijfilter-mp560series    /usr/local/bin/cifmp560
cnijfilter-mp560series    /usr/local/bin/cngpijmonmp560
cnijfilter-mp560series    /usr/local/bin/lgmonmp560
cnijfilter-mp560series    /usr/local/bin/printuimp560

Voir aussi si avec un ldd il n'indique pas des manques de bibliothèques.

paradise

Si tu pouvais mettre tes copiés-collés entre les balises code et /code, ce serait sympa.... 🙂