Merci chepioq, j'update de suite 🙂 J'espère que dolphin va remarcher de mon côté!

Pour ceux qui veulent garde un système stable, je conseille que vous gardiez kde 4.0.5, puis updater lors de la disponibilité dans le dépôt update (bientôt donc 😉 )
Quel version de soprano as tu? Moi c'est "soprano-2.1-1.fc10" et avec ça dolphin fonctionne...
8 jours plus tard
bonjour

j'ai testé kde 4.1 et je dois dire que c'est pas mal du tout, mais une chose m'embête énormement 🙁 je voudrais avoir les icônes de mon bureau s'afficher au lieu de les avoirs ds une fenêtre.
Des idées ?
Non,... même problème pour moi.
Je pense qu'une prochaine version devrait le faire, enfin j'espère 😉
On va patienter...
... dans une fenêtre ???
Tu dois parler du plasmoid "vue dossier" ...

Si tu as le menu KDE "new look", tu fais "bouton droit" sur l'icône voulue, puis "ajouter au bureau".
Tu peux aussi mettre des fichiers ".desktop" dans ${HOME}/Bureau.
En KDE 4.1 on peut faciliement enlever la barre de tache en cliquant bouton droit dessus. Auparavant il vaut mieux avoir ouvert les plasmoids systray et task managers et les autres plasmoids auxquels on tient (horloge , ....). Ca marche très bien chez moi.
Noee wrote:hum hum.
rawhide et fedora-development c'est la même chose.

je te déconseille de passer tout ton système en rawhide. c'est une version de développement donc par définition pas finie et donc tes problèmes de dépendances ne semblent pas extraordinaire.
si tu veux juste tester kde 4.1, commence par désactiver tous les dépots mis à part les dépots 'fedora' 'updates' et 'livna' puis lance cette commande: 
yum update kde-l10n-French kde-filesystem kde-settings kdebase kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace kdegames kdegraphics kdelibs kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdeutils soprano --enablerepo=rawhide
Je pense que j'ai du mettre tous les paquets essentiels (oui oui kdegames est essentiel, il y a Monsieur Patate), au pire les autres devraient être en dépendance.

Si tu as des messages d'erreur disant que des paquets sont en conflit, désinstalle les paquets incriminés (à moins qu'en supprimant ces paquets ils te disent qu'il y a plus de 10 dépendances qui seront désinstallé en même temps) et recommence. Je te déconseille de faire ces manipulations depuis kde (fais les en mode texte, depuis GNOME, ou un autre environnement de bureau), sinon tu pourrais peut être rencontrer quelques difficultés, on sait jamais.
Ok, il faut être un super-utilisateur pour ça et la commande sudo au début de la ligne que vous avez inscrite me donne une erreur me disant que je ne suis pas un sudo... bon, on dirait que c'est pas comme chez les africains ubuntiste. Chez les fidorins (les fedora ça doit êtres des fidorins...)
ça fonctionne comment?
Sujet récurrent !!!
su -
yum ....
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Je redémarre pôur voir si ça marche tout de même.

[edit] Non ça ne marche pas, je suis toujours sous KDE 4.0.5
Un truc qui ne m'avait pas encore sauter aux yeux avec KDE 4.1 et que j'ai découvert sur youtube KDE 4.1 video est que vous pouvez déclarer plusieurs desktops avec différents plasmas. C'est vraiment très chouette. Exemple: un plasma avec les bons folderview pour le bureau, un autre pour le week-end, ...
J'ai supprimé le paquet de langue de KDE 3 qui fesait tout foirer et j'ai relancé la commande, après avoir débuté la procédure paf, mon ordinateur a planté.

Au redémarrage:
[root@localhost ~]# yum update kde-l10n-French kde-filesystem kde-settings kdebase kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace kdegames kdegraphics kdelibs kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdeutils soprano --enablerepo=rawhid
Modules complémentaires chargés : refresh-packagekit


Error getting repository data for rawhid, repository not found
pierluc wrote:...
Error getting repository data for rawhid, repository not found
Alors déjà c'est rawhide avec un e, mais surtout pourquoi ce repo est sur enabled ? Avec un éditeur (sous root), ouvre le fichier /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo pour mettre enabled=0
surtout que kde 4.1 est aujourd'hui dans updates-testing. donc la commande que tu devras lancer sera plutôt: 
yum update kde-l10n-French kde-filesystem kde-settings kdebase kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace kdegames kdegraphics --enablerepo=updates-testing
Si tu as des problèmes de dépendances va voir ici: http://forums.fedora-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=288247#p288247
[pierluc@localhost ~]$ yum update kde-l10n-French kde-filesystem kde-settings kdebase kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace kdegames kdegraphics --enablerepo=updates-testing
Modules complémentaires chargés : refresh-packagekit


Cannot access repository dir //var/cache/yum/updates-testing
il faut faire cette oipération en tant que root :
su -
yum patati patata
🙂